[Newcomer FM] NFM10 | Game Over! (Town Wins)

[IAmAMunchlax]

/vote ZSS

I seriously doubt one of the mafia wasted a night action N1. Spy would be notified if someone were visited by the Mafia twice. N2 is also wrong, since how the hell did every Mafia visit 3 different people yet someone was both killed and cleaned? Doesn't add up at all to me.

[Technetium]

I can check in a completed Invenio game, see if I can find something there.

[Rickdaily12]

/unvote

Just to buy us that extra amount of time to get clarification.

[Technetium]

I can check in a completed Invenio game, see if I can find something there.

Not seeing any recent Invenio games that actually have Spies in them.

[ZSSDistortion]

Guess I'm getting lynched then from the looks of things over a slight inconsistency in my results. Might as well update my will to reflect on it. Again, sorry that my shitty play got us here and I definitely could have done better. However I am Town, and my messages DID NOT SAY ALYXIE WAS VISITEX TWICE, NOR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.

[Rickdaily12]

You know what, no. That Spy claim is a fuck up. Munch AND Retral are both on there? As an attempt to make it look like there's a Consort. Except the Consort would have had to do the killing in that case. This would still be an Escort.

I'm just going to go with logic and say that, unless Invenio is nuts, which I don't think he is, Distortion is lying.



/vote ZSSDistortion

[Watt2015]

/vote ZSS

[Technetium]

GET IN HERE, INVENIO. WE NEED THAT INFO ABOUT THE SPY. AND I THINK THE HAMMER IS COMING!

[Rickdaily12]

Oh. Guys, I don't think Chosen ever unvoted.

So that's a hammer. Just going to verify, if I'm right, I will not post again. DO NOT TALK IF I DO NOT POST AGAIN.

[Arcthurus]

Locking as per request.

[Invenio]

Current Vote Count

Player	Votes	Voters
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ZSSDistortion will be mislynched today.

[Invenio]

"I SAW WHAT I SAW I SWEAR"
"lolnoyoudidnt"
ZSS was tied onto the tracks of the trolley and sentenced to death.

A last will was found on his body.

Yep, I'm actually Town. Hard to believe, huh? First half of this will is memeing to the max and the 2nd half is serious,

@people who had me as scum: Well, what did you expect? oh yeah video with nsfw lyrics so theres that.
Spoiler:





Sorry for my scummy gameplay y'all, but I guess I'm just naturally too passive and probably a little bit apathetic for these types of competitions, though I wouldn't mind playing in another one if I got bored. Plus I think I could've done so much better if I had tried harder to do what Rick requested we do. Otherwise, read this will.

Maf visits:

N1: Chosen and Munchlax were visited. Chosen is pseudo confirmed Town in my eyes and this was why I was so reluctant to lynch Munch. Keep an eye on Munch though despite there practically being a confirmed Consort.

N2: Alyxie, Chubby and Retral were visited by Mafia. Alyxie died. Retral was blocked by the Consort(ITS NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT MAFIA HAVE VISITED SOMEBODY WHO WAS RB'ED 2 NIGHTS IN A ROW) and an unknown Mafia visited Chubby. Heres the problem I'm faced with. If a Janitor and a Consort exist, how can there be 3 maf visits if the killer and Janitor went to Alyxie and the Consort went to Retral? If somebody can figure it out in the thread, you deserve a cookie.

So with that said, the following people are at least confirmed to be non-Mafia excluding potential witchings:
TheChosenOne95
ZSSDistortion
RetralMega
ChubbyMooshroom95
IAmAMunchlax

Including Leese as confirmed scum and Alyxie as dead Town along with Azas vig claim, we have 5 players left over who could be potential lynch targets for D4:

YoursTruely
Rickdaily12
Watt2015
Melanora
Technetium

Disguiser has thrown a spanner in the works here, so remember that people in the bottom list could also be Town and vice versa for the visited list. Also yeah I know I played like shit Rick, but I kind of find it odd you decided to dispel the fiction that there is a Consort who doesn't know what they're doing and instead said it was an Escort who knew exactly what they were doing. Also the fact you pretty much said Tech and Munch were 100% Town rings alarm bells. Also tried to push a mislynching on me consistently, though the intentions were well-meant as I had been acting scummy. But they've pretty much singled me out from the looks of things and started a bandwagon of some sorts near the end of D3.

YoursTruely has flown under the radar recently to me, and barely anybody seems to have noticed it. Pressure them more and get them contributing, as while they have been less scummy than me it isn't an excuse for sitting around and not pushing discussion or scumhunting.

Watt2015 hasn't appeared to do too much pro-town from what I can see apart from a reads list and some other points. Bear in mind they replaced into a slot which already seemed scummy in a way so I would keep an eye on them.

Melanora has her baby to deal with but other than that, shes been badgering Rick a fair bit and sees him as scummy. Other than that she hasn't done too much which suggests she is Town except from explaining things from other peoples perspectives and some other stuff, but she needs to do more than attempt to roast RIck repeatedly, as she does seem fairly scummy now that I think about it

Technetium seems like the only person on this list who is contributing more pro-town in a non-scummy way than anyone else on the list. I'd say they're unlikely to be scum, but you never know as Forgotten in NFM 5 appeared to be Town-read for the majority of the game but ended up being Mafia.

So my order of lynches would currently be(based on their current thread status and town contribution): Rickdaily12, Melanora, YoursTruely, Watt2015 and Technetium. Out of these 5 people, there are 3 people very likely to be scum in my opinion. So go through their ISO's and look for anything which seems off to you, and don't go lynching in the order this list is in, its just who I would probably lynch first so just consider anyone between these 5 people for lynching tomorrow.

Also presumptive Mafia rolelist:

Janitor(dead)
Consort(this rules out Consigliere and Framer being rolled)
DisguiserDisguiser seems fairly likely to have rolled too from my nig


Final Notes: Sorry for my scummy gameplay, practically confirmed Consort*cough* now you see Rick *cough*,keep an eye on the players I listed in my 5 no-visits list for lynching purposes and especially get Yours posting more along with getting Watt to make more insightful posts. Also watch Rick and Mel and check their intentions, I guess. The disguiser is also about, so TI's take note and prepare for the possibility of a false result.

ZSS's role was Spy.

Night 3 begins! Night will end on 3/2 1:30 pm CST.
Please send in all night actions.

[Invenio]

......No I didn't get any night results wrong. Spies normally see two visits.

[Invenio]

Day 4 Begins!

The bodies are stacking up. But alas, these two did not die in vain. Each of them poured all of their remaining energy into writing a last will that could save the town!

RickDaily12 was found dead! It appears he was shot by a Vigilante!
A last will was found at the scene:

Spoiler: On the off chance that I'm dead (which would genuinely shock me), the Disguiser hid the Mafia attack action from the Spy on Night 2. That means that one of Chubby or Retral have to be the Mafia Killer on that night, and their role is Framer/Consort/Consigliere.

If Retral is telling the truth about being roleblocked by an Escort, then Chubby is the Mafia Killer.

If Retral is lying, he's almost certainly Consort.


When I was talking to Invenio, he said that there is no way for Disguiser to hide an action if they do not choose themselves. How this seems to work is as following:

1. If the Disguiser chooses to swap themselves with another Town member, the Town member's actions appear to the Spy. If no action was taken by the Town member, then the Spy sees nothing. (See Night 1.)

2. If the Disguiser chooses to swap a Mafia member with another Town member, the swapped Mafia member's action is hidden, and both targets appear to the Spy. (Spy sees both Disguiser victims, but not which actions those victims took)

3. If the Disguiser swaps two Town members, the Spy sees that both Town members were visited by the Disguiser.


In short, this means that we always see the following:

In the first case, if a Citizen is targeted, or a person who can do nothing, the Mafia action disappears completely.
In the second case, a Mafia action loses visibility, but then a Disguiser target is a member of the Mafia.
In the third case, we see a bonus Mafia visit- proof of the Disguiser's existence.


This means that it's likely that Munch was visited by someone other than the Disguiser on Night 1. Who visited him, then? If it wasn't the Mafia killer, could it have been a Consort?

If Leese performed the cleaning, and the Disguiser targeted the third Mafia member (Consort/Framer/Consigliere), what would this imply about Retral?


HYPOTHESIS: If there is a Consort, it is Retral. If there is an Escort, then Chubby is Mafia.

A death note followed up with the will:

Hey guys, what a surprise. I, Azamelto, am legit Vigilante. I've taken a shot at Rick, I hope it lands. Surprised I didn't shoot you Retral? Nah, I'm not that petty. If I'm wrong here, I'm gonna guess Mel is scum. It was a tossup between her and Rick.

Rick's role was Citizen!

Next up was Technetium! He was shot by the Mafia!
A last will was found:

Spoiler: Technetium
Doctor
N1 WITCHED and healed Chosen! Chosen cannot be Mafia because he was attacked by Mafia, and he cannot be Witch because that would involve him targeting me to himself, an incredibly odd move for a Witch. After all, what if I was a Vigilante? Or the Mafia Killer? He couldn’t know what I was, even if he figured I was a powered Town role. Consider him confirmed, as I don't see him making an audacious move like that, considering that he had the opportunity to lead the Town and did not do so.
N2 Self healed.
N3 Healing Watt2015.

Watch out for Rick. I don't like what he did yesterday, but I do realize that it may have been a mistake. According to Invenio, ZSS was told of two visits to his target and apparently did not record it as such.
Watch out for Chubby. He replaced into a scummy slot and has been acting unusual. His motivations are uncertain.
Azamelto will be confirmed Town or confirmed scum tonight. Let's see how that develops.
I've got a good feeling about Watt. Chosen is almost certainly not Witch and definitely not Mafia. Keep an eye on Melanora, I had had good feelings about her but now I don't really have any strong reads......

If you're in MyLo, massclaiming may or may not be a good idea, depending on how many other Power roles died tonight. Just remember that Alyxie gives claimspace to the scum.

Good luck.

Tech's role was Doctor!

The thread is now open for discussion. The day will end when a majority vote is made, be it a NoLynch or on a player. Otherwise, it will end when 5 days pass.
Dawn of the 4th day. 120 hours remain.
Day 4 will end on 5/7, 2:00pm CST, or when a majority vote is reached.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

FIRST

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

Anyways I was gonna suggest lynching Rick today(spy shenanigans)

/oh well

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

Peaceful.

Anyways...we're in MyLo.

/yay

[Azamelto]

Whelp, I guess I was wrong.

Also I slept peacefully.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

Whelp, I guess I was wrong.

Also I slept peacefully.

I don't blame you.

Anyways we should go off ZSS's list(for lynching)

[Watt2015]

Slept peacefully. Glad we have another confirmed Town.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

In the first case, if a Citizen is targeted, or a person who can do nothing, the Mafia action disappears completely.

This is what happened if I was visited :/

[Watt2015]

We managed to lose some of our loudest speakers however last night. No more slacking for most of us, though we do have a group of Confirmed Town now. I'll wait on the rest of the players to check in before I try to think of anything. I'll be back in about an hour. (Bus ride home)

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

We managed to lose some of our loudest speakers however last night. No more slacking for most of us, though we do have a group of Confirmed Town now. I'll wait on the rest of the players to check in before I try to think of anything. I'll be back in about an hour. (Bus ride home)

/kidnap watt and bring him home

[melanora]

How the fuck was Rick town? He basically speed lynched the fucking Spy like are you kidding me?

Who else was on that lynch train?

So we've lost the Doctor and the Spy, and have confirmed Vig that can no longer shoot. Time to mass claim?

[Azamelto]

How the fuck was Rick town? He basically speed lynched the fucking Spy like are you kidding me?

Who else was on that lynch train?

So we've lost the Doctor and the Spy, and have confirmed Vig that can no longer shoot. Time to mass claim?

Do eet