BasicFourLife wrote:This does not fix Jester's issue of being a low impact role, that can end up killing Evils. Just make Jester NB and it would fix all of the issues.
Pretty disappointed that the following changes have not been made yet: Invest results, Spy replacement, Retri replacement, Trans nerf, Mayor change, Generalised Death Announcements, Whisper nerf of not allowing to whisper during Night and DA, Buffing BMing ability a small bit, Buffing Forger, Framer, Disg cuz they are shit, changing Witch' witching notification to fake RB, making Exe and Jester NB, adding a new NE preferably Gossiper, buffing Arso making him douse immune and / or able to store douses, and douse RBs, replacing WW with Butcher cuz Rampage will be a luck based broken mechanic that is impossible to fix.
That should cover most of it.
Instead you just make a minor change to Jester -_-
fwogcarf wrote:BasicFourLife wrote:This does not fix Jester's issue of being a low impact role, that can end up killing Evils. Just make Jester NB and it would fix all of the issues.
Pretty disappointed that the following changes have not been made yet: Invest results, Spy replacement, Retri replacement, Trans nerf, Mayor change, Generalised Death Announcements, Whisper nerf of not allowing to whisper during Night and DA, Buffing BMing ability a small bit, Buffing Forger, Framer, Disg cuz they are shit, changing Witch' witching notification to fake RB, making Exe and Jester NB, adding a new NE preferably Gossiper, buffing Arso making him douse immune and / or able to store douses, and douse RBs, replacing WW with Butcher cuz Rampage will be a luck based broken mechanic that is impossible to fix.
That should cover most of it.
Instead you just make a minor change to Jester -_-
You know why?
Cause they don't go to the RI forums and listen to us
OrangeTheYordle wrote:What an incredible nerf to jester...
JoltikIsDubby wrote:OrangeTheYordle wrote:What an incredible nerf to jester...
It doesn't look like you've decided yet, but will there be any changes to the rolelist?
Spoiler:
GoogleFeud wrote:"This season has gone incredibly well, and we are really happy with the current win rates overall. We feel that we have nailed down a really solid role list with this season, and that small adjustments can be made with the current win rates to bring certain roles up or down a peg to be exactly where we want them to be."
Yeah not really. This is what happens every game:
Jailor reveals Day 1.
NK leaves/ suicides into vet bait or jailor.
a few townies get confirmed Day 2 - Day 3
mafia gets rekt.
Until you do something about the jailor revealing D1, this is not gonna stop happening. Seriously, this is getting really boring and unfair for the mafia. Today I played maf 4-5 times and lost all of them because of this. Nothing else, most of the times I had reasonable actually decent teammates, but still lost. Even an idiot/newbie can handle this strategy and follow it.
Penguinfami wrote:GoogleFeud wrote:"This season has gone incredibly well, and we are really happy with the current win rates overall. We feel that we have nailed down a really solid role list with this season, and that small adjustments can be made with the current win rates to bring certain roles up or down a peg to be exactly where we want them to be."
Yeah not really. This is what happens every game:
Jailor reveals Day 1.
NK leaves/ suicides into vet bait or jailor.
a few townies get confirmed Day 2 - Day 3
mafia gets rekt.
Until you do something about the jailor revealing D1, this is not gonna stop happening. Seriously, this is getting really boring and unfair for the mafia. Today I played maf 4-5 times and lost all of them because of this. Nothing else, most of the times I had reasonable actually decent teammates, but still lost. Even an idiot/newbie can handle this strategy and follow it.
I agree. Please do something about Jailor revealing day 1. I don't want to report people who use this strat because it is not cheating, but it would be great if BMG made a public statement that discourages people from doing this.
BasicFourLife wrote:Penguinfami wrote:GoogleFeud wrote:"This season has gone incredibly well, and we are really happy with the current win rates overall. We feel that we have nailed down a really solid role list with this season, and that small adjustments can be made with the current win rates to bring certain roles up or down a peg to be exactly where we want them to be."
Yeah not really. This is what happens every game:
Jailor reveals Day 1.
NK leaves/ suicides into vet bait or jailor.
a few townies get confirmed Day 2 - Day 3
mafia gets rekt.
Until you do something about the jailor revealing D1, this is not gonna stop happening. Seriously, this is getting really boring and unfair for the mafia. Today I played maf 4-5 times and lost all of them because of this. Nothing else, most of the times I had reasonable actually decent teammates, but still lost. Even an idiot/newbie can handle this strategy and follow it.
I agree. Please do something about Jailor revealing day 1. I don't want to report people who use this strat because it is not cheating, but it would be great if BMG made a public statement that discourages people from doing this.
We can always change the mechanics of the game to make it disbenificial.
We can remove Spy, to make it so MD roles can visit the Jailor N1, and if a Lookout is on Jailor they have no way of disproving them.
We can also add Watcher, making LO claims especially suspicious.
We can change all the easily provable roles, to not so provable.
BasicFourLife wrote:This does not fix Jester's issue of being a low impact role, that can end up killing Evils. Just make Jester NB and it would fix all of the issues.
Pretty disappointed that the following changes have not been made yet: Invest results, Spy replacement, Retri replacement, Trans nerf, Mayor change, Generalised Death Announcements, Whisper nerf of not allowing to whisper during Night and DA, Buffing BMing ability a small bit, Buffing Forger, Framer, Disg cuz they are shit, changing Witch' witching notification to fake RB, making Exe and Jester NB, adding a new NE preferably Gossiper, buffing Arso making him douse immune and / or able to store douses, and douse RBs, replacing WW with Butcher cuz Rampage will be a luck based broken mechanic that is impossible to fix.
That should cover most of it.
Instead you just make a minor change to Jester -_-
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