CarpetHamster3 wrote:The fact that the role list is changing is so bad. IMO this role list is perfect as it actually has a same playing level for each faction. If this is going to be switched with the role list in Ranked Practice i will thoroughly be dis appointed as this role list favors the Mafia more than ever. All aside i think the jailor's new death note is really good and giving spy a new buff is such a good thing. spy has been such an easy role to claim for mafias and this buff makes it hard again.
Nightcore4life wrote:Tbh, this is just going to make the spy very OP.. it basically says "lets make the spy do what it use to do and do exactly what a lookout can do." In my opinion, it'd be better if spy got its usual "see mafia chat at night" ability. that's all that needs added to him.
alex1234321 wrote:Is there a list of reasons that the Jailor has to execute someone anywhere on here?
alex1234321 wrote:I really do not like the Spy change. For the reasons that us forumers have stated for a long time, even seeing Mafia visits is bad as it inherently harms Mafia members structurally. Also, the bugging thing could lead to a lot of confirmablility in my opinion since Spies could bug someone then tell them what happened to them. Also, if a Lookout is also on them, this could be brokenly overpowered.
I am also not a fan of the Jailor execution reason note. Jailors can confirm very easily and almost never even use the death note to self confirm. Also, people often come up with innovative and abstract plays that may not fit in with the reasons listed. If certain reasons like policy executions and lowering claimspace are added, then people can easily use them to gamethrow and use those reasons as an excuse.
While these changes are not perfect in my opinion, they are still a step in the right direction.
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