Should we move away from Facebook?

[PyromonkeyGG]

Hey guys,

Josh and I have been talking about the merits and downfalls of having the Facebook login. Not many people have been using the FB login, what do you guys think about the issue?

[HiddenNinja55]

Well it's honestly easier to log in directly and there's no point in using the FB log in.

[TurdPile]

Merit: Having it linked into Facebook App... really, what's the downside of that one? You get access to a huge population base.

[PyromonkeyGG]

Currently we are having issues with the Facebook stuff with friends and partys because Facebook names are not unique. It will be very nasty to refactor our code to get it working with Facebook correctly. Thats why I bring this up as the last time I checked, maybe 10% of the players use the FB login.

[TurdPile]

Currently we are having issues with the Facebook stuff with friends and partys because Facebook names are not unique. It will be very nasty to refactor our code to get it working with Facebook correctly. Thats why I bring this up as the last time I checked, maybe 10% of the players use the FB login.

10% is like 5000 people

But i mean if you are going to remove facebook, might as well do it during alpha.

[PyromonkeyGG]

Currently we are having issues with the Facebook stuff with friends and partys because Facebook names are not unique. It will be very nasty to refactor our code to get it working with Facebook correctly. Thats why I bring this up as the last time I checked, maybe 10% of the players use the FB login.

10% is like 5000 people

But i mean if you are going to remove facebook, might as well do it during alpha.

it may be 5000 people but how many of them wouldn't just make a regular account? Also, this doesn't mean we won't add in Facebook again in the future. We are just playing around with the idea right now.

[LordofFail]

I dont mind the FB login - just as long as people's names arent used.

Also seeing as how most people login normally, I don't really see the point of having a FB login - if people are coming though FB, just have them login like everyone else - just like the forums / game on the FB page...

[datdownie]

No! Don't move away from FB! My FB account has been so successful in Town of Salem, people may forget me! Keep FB, and it shouldn't be bad for newcomers, as they would probably use their FB account rather than use a ToS account. Thanks!

[iggyvolz]

I personally don't use Facebook login because I don't want my personal name displayed (I prefer to keep my real life and online life separate because I'm just a teen and some of my friends would think the things I do online are geeky). But once private lobbies are added, I'm going to try to convince some of my friends to make a group and play this on a regular basis.

One option would be adding a Facebook login plugin to PHPBB. I know plugins are a huge pain to add (honestly I think PHPBB needs to be completely restructured, but that's just my off-topic opinion), but creating a forum account with a Facebook login would be a great asset to the game. Authentication wouldn't need to be terribly complicated (get Facebook user ID, compare to a database showing Facebook user ID's => PHPBB ID's, get PHPBB user). If you ever need help with that you can message me (I'm especially skilled at PHP and not-so-skilled at Actionscript).

[AWWYEAH]

I wouldn't suggest moving away from Facebook, simply for the reason that Facebook is a online social pit filled with people talking to people.
So I ask you, whats a better way to get recognition than person to person reference on a gigantic social network.
I'd say use it to your advantage.

[TurdPile]

Here's my Final word on this:
Keep it, but change the mechanics.
Allow a user to login via facebook, but once that occurs, force them to pick a username. Therefore, their real name is not used (ref. Cerilium), and also, you can link account data with said username as real names are not unique (ref. Blake).

[PoisonMaid]

I personally don't use Facebook login because I don't want my personal name displayed (I prefer to keep my real life and online life separate because I'm just a teen and some of my friends would think the things I do online are geeky). But once private lobbies are added, I'm going to try to convince some of my friends to make a group and play this on a regular basis.

One option would be adding a Facebook login plugin to PHPBB. I know plugins are a huge pain to add (honestly I think PHPBB needs to be completely restructured, but that's just my off-topic opinion), but creating a forum account with a Facebook login would be a great asset to the game. Authentication wouldn't need to be terribly complicated (get Facebook user ID, compare to a database showing Facebook user ID's => PHPBB ID's, get PHPBB user). If you ever need help with that you can message me (I'm especially skilled at PHP and not-so-skilled at Actionscript).

I agree with this.. that way people can still use their fb login.
But also(just a suggestion) add a choice to use forum name or FB name.
I myself would rather not use FB login. But there are some people that would rather prefer using FB.

[TheWanderer]

My opinion is to get rid of it. Facebook has all kinds of privacy problems and is just a pretty horrible company in general that doesn't listen to their users or care about them or their privacy. They just want to mine people's data and sell them to advertisers. Facebook may be big, but people are unhappy with it. It's like a town of zombies. In the long run they're going to go the way of Myspace. I don't think good places on the internet should be associated with Facebook. Also, self-reliance and all that. Better not to depend on other companies and keep everything within your control.

[DyingTempest]

I say keep it because I've been able to get my friends to try your game this way. Many people shy away from making an account first go.

They do not use it anymore because they liked the game and made proper accounts, but if they had to go through hoops I don't think they would have tried the game.

[TurdPile]

I say keep it.
You can benefit from Facebook's auto post in the future.
Get an achievement? POST!
Unlock a new skin? POST!
Becomes a survivor? POST!

Also, in the future, people wants everything to be connected and can be accessed from a place.
Why would Google introduce auto login the linked account when accessing Google websites via Android browser? :/

This is why I would keep it.

[Taren]

I don't think anyone has ever actually thought 'You know what would be great? Posting this virtual achievement to Facebook to spam everyone I know!' At least I don't know anyone who isn't annoyed by these things. Might be in a bubble, though.

Anyway, could you bring Facebook login users to choose a unique user name when logging in for the first time? Or use a unique identifier linked to the account under the hood? Integration into Facebook, especially easy friend invites, might really help spreading word of mouth. Just be sure to make it optional and I wouldn't mind.

[Makrell]

Keep keep keep, it is a good way to see if your friends are playing the game

[TheWanderer]

I don't think anyone has ever actually thought 'You know what would be great? Posting this virtual achievement to Facebook to spam everyone I know!' At least I don't know anyone who isn't annoyed by these things. Might be in a bubble, though.

Anyway, could you bring Facebook login users to choose a unique user name when logging in for the first time? Or use a unique identifier linked to the account under the hood? Integration into Facebook, especially easy friend invites, might really help spreading word of mouth. Just be sure to make it optional and I wouldn't mind.

This. Constant blabbering on about every trivial thing being promoted as sharing it on social media is everything that's wrong with the internet today. It's the opposite of being privacy-aware.

I say keep it.
You can benefit from Facebook's auto post in the future.
Get an achievement? POST!
Unlock a new skin? POST!
Becomes a survivor? POST!

Also, in the future, people wants everything to be connected and can be accessed from a place.
Why would Google introduce auto login the linked account when accessing Google websites via Android browser? :/

I really don't agree with this at all. Like Taren said, it might be alright to have it as a feature used to find your friends who also play it, and as long as it's an optional thing that's not shoved down our throats like Google+ crap I wouldn't mind keeping facebook around in some form. But I definitely don't want to be asked to share every little thing I do, after every game, after every turn, after every sentence I type. I've even seen some sites now where whenever you highlight text, a 'share on facebook' button pops up trying to get you to share that highlighted text. My god what is the world coming to?

Excessive promotion of social media is pretty much the worst thing ever. I almost refused to play this game at first because it only had Facebook login.

[PyromonkeyGG]

I say keep it.
You can benefit from Facebook's auto post in the future.
Get an achievement? POST!
Unlock a new skin? POST!
Becomes a survivor? POST!

Also, in the future, people wants everything to be connected and can be accessed from a place.
Why would Google introduce auto login the linked account when accessing Google websites via Android browser? :/

This is the exact opposite of why I would want to keep the Facebook login. I never want to be known as "that annoying facebook game". Spamming peoples walls is the fast track to becoming annoying. Since I wouldn't want a game doing that while I was playing it, Town of Salem won't be doing that.