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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

pumacatrun2 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
pumacatrun2 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:I would like to ask everyone to answer some questions, so we can get a sense of who is under the radar?
1. Do you think that Wolf is scum? If so, why?
2. What are your thoughts about Jman? Do you think that he is the Serial Killer?
3. Moonbird seems like a leader of the Town, but what are your thoughts about him/her?

Here is my take on it:
1. Many of Wolf's posts add little to no relevant information. He/She might be scum trying to direct the conversation away from gathering information.
2. I think that we can all agree that Jman is under the radar, but I think that we should wait until Day 2 before jumping to conclusions.
3. I personally think that Moonbird is a Townie, but some other people think that he/she is scum. Moonbird is working hard to gather leads, but he/she can be a Townie trying to carry the Town, or scum trying to hard to appear townlike.

Note that day ends in 1 minute so I doubt you'll get many answers :P

1. They are starting to ping on my radar but most of the actual arguments being used against them I've disagreed with.
2. Considering I'm the one who caught the potential slip, I might be a little biased for wanting to be right, but I think it's in the very least worth remembering or looking into. I've seen worse scumslips from townies though, it could have just been careless thinking.
3. Like I said earlier, I have a slight gutread on them being scum but it's not going on much other than my wariness towards town leaders/people who control the game/aggressive players.

npromin1 wrote:To answer your questions, Alex. I think everyone who has posted information so far are townies except maybe Jman. Not sure about him. But everyone who has been quiet and not contributing well are more likely scum then us.
As for Wolf, he has been contributing some. I don't think he is scum.


Remember when I specifically stated not to trust experienced players and active players necessarily more than inactive ones because we could secretly be pushing agendas? :P I suggest thinking over that blanket statement a little more.

What is your read on me? I think that you are town.

my read is
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(when day ends you're meant to do the shoosh :P)

What?
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:47 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

pumacatrun2 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:I would like to ask everyone to answer some questions, so we can get a sense of who is under the radar?
1. Do you think that Wolf is scum? If so, why?
2. What are your thoughts about Jman? Do you think that he is the Serial Killer?
3. Moonbird seems like a leader of the Town, but what are your thoughts about him/her?

Here is my take on it:
1. Many of Wolf's posts add little to no relevant information. He/She might be scum trying to direct the conversation away from gathering information.
2. I think that we can all agree that Jman is under the radar, but I think that we should wait until Day 2 before jumping to conclusions.
3. I personally think that Moonbird is a Townie, but some other people think that he/she is scum. Moonbird is working hard to gather leads, but he/she can be a Townie trying to carry the Town, or scum trying to hard to appear townlike.

Note that day ends in 1 minute so I doubt you'll get many answers :P

1. They are starting to ping on my radar but most of the actual arguments being used against them I've disagreed with.
2. Considering I'm the one who caught the potential slip, I might be a little biased for wanting to be right, but I think it's in the very least worth remembering or looking into. I've seen worse scumslips from townies though, it could have just been careless thinking.
3. Like I said earlier, I have a slight gutread on them being scum but it's not going on much other than my wariness towards town leaders/people who control the game/aggressive players.

npromin1 wrote:To answer your questions, Alex. I think everyone who has posted information so far are townies except maybe Jman. Not sure about him. But everyone who has been quiet and not contributing well are more likely scum then us.
As for Wolf, he has been contributing some. I don't think he is scum.


Remember when I specifically stated not to trust experienced players and active players necessarily more than inactive ones because we could secretly be pushing agendas? :P I suggest thinking over that blanket statement a little more.

What is your read on me? I think that you are town.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:45 pm
 
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Topic: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Game Over [Town Wins]
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

I would like to ask everyone to answer some questions, so we can get a sense of who is under the radar?
1. Do you think that Wolf is scum? If so, why?
2. What are your thoughts about Jman? Do you think that he is the Serial Killer?
3. Moonbird seems like a leader of the Town, but what are your thoughts about him/her?

Here is my take on it:
1. Many of Wolf's posts add little to no relevant information. He/She might be scum trying to direct the conversation away from gathering information.
2. I think that we can all agree that Jman is under the radar, but I think that we should wait until Day 2 before jumping to conclusions.
3. I personally think that Moonbird is a Townie, but some other people think that he/she is scum. Moonbird is working hard to gather leads, but he/she can be a Townie trying to carry the Town, or scum trying to hard to appear townlike.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:37 pm
 
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Topic: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Game Over [Town Wins]
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

TheWolfBuddy wrote:I'm depressed I just learned that Starbound is being ported to the X-Bone 1 ;-;

This is one example of one of your posts that does not add anything to the conversation. You "there is nothing to say" excuse does not work, because people like Puma and Moonbird are able to gather reads, so why can't you?
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:27 pm
 
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Topic: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Game Over [Town Wins]
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

TheWolfBuddy wrote:What are you supposed to do for the 48 hours that are night except send in your night ability?

I do not think that you are supposed to really do anything. This is also my first FM game, so I do not really know.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:18 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

I will try not to scumhunt, but it is kind of a natural instinct of mine. Also, does day 1 usually have this many posts?
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:14 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

Here are the players that I think that most of us would agree are suspicious:
Wolf- Loud and off topic, and says that "there's nothing to say" when anyone brings this up
Jman- May be the Serial Killer, trying too hard to act like a Townie
Moonbird- Asking for a lot of leads and might be scum trying too hard to appear as a Townie

Is there anyone else that I should add, and does anyone think that someone on this list should not be?
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:03 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

I am not a tryhard. I am just naturally like this. It is not like I am spending an hour analyzing a post, but I am taking notes. Also, Puma is currently the only person who is not under any suspicion for me. :lol:
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:56 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

TheWolfBuddy wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:The only reason why I am scumhunting and doing PbPA is because it is natural for me to do that. I am not trying to look at unnecessary details and assume that they mean something; I am looking at people's posts and making notes on them. Here are my thoughts:
-Wolf is loud and off topic, trying to distract the serious people. He is suspicious.
-Murat seems to have a bad attitude and denies it. Does he usually have a bad attitude?
-Moonbird seems like a leader of the Town. In ToS, I often see Mafia leading the Town to seem less scummy. I think that Moonbird is town, though.
-Jman might be Serial Killer. He/She is leading the Town, which I have seen Serial Killers


So you are just putting sus on people that are attempting to lead?

And how am I distracting people from being serious? Noone has any information, it's day one.

I am kinda suspicious of Jman but Murat might be grumpy because he's a role like citizen or medium, that aren't very fun to play.

I agree that Murat might be Citizen, but it is way too early to ask. I am putting some suspicion on Moonbird because he/she might be scum trying to act too much like a Townie. He/She is experienced, so he/she is probably a Townie acting like a de-facto Mayor. I think that you are suspicious because you are posting a lot, and some of your posts have almost no information. I know that it is Day 1, but if this was a valid excuse, people like Moonbird would not have any information either.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:46 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

pumacatrun2 wrote:1. The D1 shitpost v superserious arguments and whether either side is alignment indicative It can be alignment indicative, but it does not have to. Often, scum post useless things to direct attention away from them, and the serious people might be scum trying to blend in. I am only being serious because that is how I always am.
2. Moon/Alex/others probably v Wolf I think that Wolf is Mafia because he is too loud and most of his posts do not add anything.
3. Jman's potential SK slip I would not be surprised if Jman was Serial Killer, as he/she is leading the Town and might be trying to hard to blend in.
4. My questions that I gave, particularly thoughts on if this setup makes it more or less likely for non-newbies to be targeted, both by town and scum roles I already answered those.
5. Any general reads on people that have pinged on your radar so far, both townie and scummy, even just gutreads. I already made it clear what my reads are.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:41 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

The only reason why I am scumhunting and doing PbPA is because it is natural for me to do that. I am not trying to look at unnecessary details and assume that they mean something; I am looking at people's posts and making notes on them. Here are my thoughts:
-Wolf is loud and off topic, trying to distract the serious people. He is suspicious.
-Murat seems to have a bad attitude and denies it. Does he usually have a bad attitude?
-Moonbird seems like a leader of the Town. In ToS, I often see Mafia leading the Town to seem less scummy. I think that Moonbird is town, though.
-Jman might be Serial Killer. He/She is leading the Town, which I have seen Serial Killers
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:33 am
 
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Topic: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Game Over [Town Wins]
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

Should I stop scumhunting?
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:50 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

npromin1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:I think that you are probably Town. You are relatively quiet, but you seem to take the game seriously, as a Townie would.



Alex, please explain why you think Wolf is scum. He's been relatively quiet. And explain why you think I am scum while you are at it.

I know that everyone will yell at me for this, but both of you have been relatively loud. Wolf keeps going off topic. As for you, I looked at your ISO, and you are not as scummy as I thought. At the beginning, you seemed like you were trying too hard, but I do not think that anymore.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:09 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

alex1234321 wrote:
pumacatrun2 wrote:Also, nobody answered my questions earlier, so figure I'll reiterate them with an addition because it's interesting to see responses:
pumacatrun2 wrote:1. Do you have any prior FM-related experience (could be your second/third game, you could have played a lot of ToS, you could have come from another similar game/forum etc. or even just read some previous games to see what you're getting into)? I have ToS experience and have looked at other FM games.
2. Do you think that with the larger amount of players and even smaller non-newbie/newbie ratio compared to previous NFMs non-newbies will be targeted (both by scum and town) any more or less than before? I think that non-newbies will be targeted more, because it is more obvious who the non-newbies are and they can probably do a better job figuring out who is scum and who is not than the newbies.
3. Are there any roles or game mechanics you are particularly confused about (I suggest reading over the rolelist thread to make sure you aren't confusing how some roles work in ToS)? Not really
4. Do you think that shitposting and being a bit off-topic D1 is alignment indicative? What about the opposite, acting serious?As I have already stated, scum may be off topic because they are trying to steer the conversation away from scumhunting. Being serious indicates that someone is most likely Town, as serious people will focus more on scumhunting. Townies would, too, as they have no reason not to.


moonbird wrote:@Alex Scum can act like that too m8.

My exact point :lol:
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:04 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

pumacatrun2 wrote:Also, nobody answered my questions earlier, so figure I'll reiterate them with an addition because it's interesting to see responses:
pumacatrun2 wrote:1. Do you have any prior FM-related experience (could be your second/third game, you could have played a lot of ToS, you could have come from another similar game/forum etc. or even just read some previous games to see what you're getting into)? I have ToS experience and have looked at other FM games.
2. Do you think that with the larger amount of players and even smaller non-newbie/newbie ratio compared to previous NFMs non-newbies will be targeted (both by scum and town) any more or less than before? [b]I think that non-newbies will be targeted more, because it is more obvious who the non-newbies are and they can probably do a better job figuring out who is scum and who is not than the newbies.

3. Are there any roles or game mechanics you are particularly confused about (I suggest reading over the rolelist thread to make sure you aren't confusing how some roles work in ToS)? Not really
4. Do you think that shitposting and being a bit off-topic D1 is alignment indicative? What about the opposite, acting serious?As I have already stated, scum may be off topic because they are trying to steer the conversation away from scumhunting. Being serious indicates that someone is most likely Town, as serious people will focus more on scumhunting. Townies would, too, as they have no reason not to.


moonbird wrote:@Alex Scum can act like that too m8.

My exact point :lol:
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:03 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

pumacatrun2 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:I think that this is a good time to gather information about everyone's personalities. I think that Moonbird and Jman are probably Town. I think that npromin and Wolf are probalbly scum. I also think that Murat is suspicious. The only person that has not spoken yet is Leeman, but some people like Mace and Lisq have also been very quiet. Does anyone disagree with me?

I think you are probably not taking my advice :roll:
Alex, what do you think of me?

I think that you are probably Town. You are relatively quiet, but you seem to take the game seriously, as a Townie would.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:53 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

I think that this is a good time to gather information about everyone's personalities. I think that Moonbird and Jman are probably Town. I think that npromin and Wolf are probalbly scum. I also think that Murat is suspicious. The only person that has not spoken yet is Leeman, but some people like Mace and Lisq have also been very quiet. Does anyone disagree with me?
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:47 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

Look at your ISO, especially at the beginning. You just seem slightly conceited and disagree more than you agree.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:14 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

You are not that loud anymore, but you just keep disagreeing with people. That is just my take on it.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:01 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

Sevohaseth is very inconsistent. I am confused about him/her. He/she might be scum trying to confuse everyone, or just a 'lost Townie' as some other people have said. I have him under moderate suspicion in my notes.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:55 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

pumacatrun2 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:Right now, I see npromin, wolf, and possibly murat as scummy. I think that jman and moonbird are town. Also, the only reason that I am so serious is because this is how I always am- 110% business. I think that we can gather a lot of information today by looking at people's personalities, how much they talk, and how on topic they are.

I still really don't think that's a great mindset to be taking into FM, but up to you. I'll just be staying wary of you anyway though.
Can you actually explain your reads a bit better? A couple of sentences would be fine.

Ok. In my notes, it says that Wolf is "Loud and off topic. Suspicious." He/She talks a lot and is trying to steer the conversation away from the actual game. Npromin "acts too much like a Townie to be one". He/She thinks that I am Vet baiting. I will not prove or disprove this because it is way too early to hardclaim. Murat is a "loud know it all with a bad attitude." To me, he/she sounds a bit angry in their posts, and disagrees a lot. I have Moonbird and Jman as Townies because Jman is "Loud and on topic," and Moonbird is "Knowledgeable and loud." They both talk a lot, and both seem to stay on topic pretty well. Moonbird might also be a good 'leader' later on.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:51 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

NotATraitor123 wrote:Okay. I am in, my first FM game.

Hello everyone.

Hello. This is also mu first FM game. What is your take on what is going on? I personally think that npromin and wolf are scum.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:33 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

Right now, I see npromin, wolf, and possibly murat as scummy. I think that jman and moonbird are town. Also, the only reason that I am so serious is because this is how I always am- 110% business. I think that we can gather a lot of information today by looking at people's personalities, how much they talk, and how on topic they are.
by alex1234321
Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:17 am
 
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Topic: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Game Over [Town Wins]
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

I think that we could use this time to talk about players' personalities, and any strategies. What do you guys think about everyone's personalities?
by alex1234321
Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:24 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM20 | Day 1 [Finally]

In my notes, it says that Wolf is "loud and off topic". He is probably trying to distract us so that we do not talk strategy. He seems very scummy to me.
by alex1234321
Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:21 pm
 
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